12 Jan 2012
On a roll
I have got a trip to Kew booked, and also six delightful electoral registers zooming their way down the motorway from Boston Spa. I used these last week to successfully find my John B Jones, and am now hooked! The electoral rolls for the address I had in the Midlands showed that John's wife was Ann E. He was the only John B in the entire country to have a wife named Ann E. This made it very easy to find them in North Wales, and to drill down and by sheer determination get their address - only to discover they had moved to Cheshire! But we are now in touch, and I have discovered that his sister actually had an unusual first name which she didn't use - another barrier to me finding the family, apart from the well known name of Jones! I can't take a picture I'm afraid: they are very strict about electoral rolls at the British Library. I am just slightly further ahead in finding my Tom Jones of Queensferry. I found his son in the 1950 electoral roll for Sealand, lately married, and Tom appears to be living next door with his wife... but this turns out to be wrong. Tom was not this man but was living at Garden City.
Found in Bradford
Sarah Ann Shields is living happily in Westmorland in 1871, but then pulls off a very good disappearing act. Her father's will does fill in the gaps, as he names John Barnie as an executor, and I believe son-in-law. There is no mention of John Barnie marrying a Shields, except on familysearch (image1), and then we can piece together that Sarah must have married the schoolmaster in Bradford of all places before going up to Edinburgh. The Scottish census gives her birthplace as England. Although she dies in her mid thirties, she does have family in the Rutherglen area of Glasgow.
Update 2014: I arrive at the home of their great granddaughter clutching a pack of frozen peas, having been nearly sliced in two by a crazed woman from Luton. The Barnie family had tried to find Sarah's origins but were hampered by not knowing her birthplace. They might have located the Atkinson first marriage, but as Sarah's birth record apparently occurs in London (actually she was registered correctly in Westmorland but as Shield), they had no idea of the Northcountry origins.
Update 2014: I arrive at the home of their great granddaughter clutching a pack of frozen peas, having been nearly sliced in two by a crazed woman from Luton. The Barnie family had tried to find Sarah's origins but were hampered by not knowing her birthplace. They might have located the Atkinson first marriage, but as Sarah's birth record apparently occurs in London (actually she was registered correctly in Westmorland but as Shield), they had no idea of the Northcountry origins.
A wellspring of descendants - all thanks to the right church
After Christmas 2011, I returned home. When I sat in my rooftop eyrie, back in the warmth, it was to my father's Tyneside ancestor I turned my bow.
I knew that Joseph Gibson married at St John the Baptist, Newcastle 1862, but I had no idea what had happened to his sister Annie born around 1840 in Westoe, South Shields, a taverner's daughter. Her dad kept the Waggoners Arms in Westoe.
It took me two years until today to guess that his older sister Ann had probably married at the same church two years earlier. I searched through all the marriages at the Newcastle register office website which were for Newcastle itself, with this thought in mind, and I found several entries where the all-important page number had been misindexed at freebmd. Ah-ha, Gibson to Edwards.
(Tidying up this article 6 years down the track, I can't remember how the Newcastle register office site actually helped. I think it might have listed spouses, or at least given the church? It certainly doesn't do that any more!)
Sure enough the certificate confirmed the marriage at St John the Baptist of Ann Gibson, innkeeper's daughter.
But that very evening, having fixed the mis-indexed page, I already knew Ann's marriage (to carpenter Edwards) was right. The censuses and childrens' names all stacked. I even found their great-grandson was a Newcastle cartoonist (Doug Smith). Then a photo online of Doug's daughter (below). I eventually got a letter back from her, only to find she was living about half a mile along an old railway line from my rooftop eyrie, over the blue barking night skies of London.
I knew that Joseph Gibson married at St John the Baptist, Newcastle 1862, but I had no idea what had happened to his sister Annie born around 1840 in Westoe, South Shields, a taverner's daughter. Her dad kept the Waggoners Arms in Westoe.
It took me two years until today to guess that his older sister Ann had probably married at the same church two years earlier. I searched through all the marriages at the Newcastle register office website which were for Newcastle itself, with this thought in mind, and I found several entries where the all-important page number had been misindexed at freebmd. Ah-ha, Gibson to Edwards.
(Tidying up this article 6 years down the track, I can't remember how the Newcastle register office site actually helped. I think it might have listed spouses, or at least given the church? It certainly doesn't do that any more!)
Sure enough the certificate confirmed the marriage at St John the Baptist of Ann Gibson, innkeeper's daughter.
But that very evening, having fixed the mis-indexed page, I already knew Ann's marriage (to carpenter Edwards) was right. The censuses and childrens' names all stacked. I even found their great-grandson was a Newcastle cartoonist (Doug Smith). Then a photo online of Doug's daughter (below). I eventually got a letter back from her, only to find she was living about half a mile along an old railway line from my rooftop eyrie, over the blue barking night skies of London.
using the Death Duty records at Kew
Harvey's will is disappointing, a very old dog. It doesn't mention his accident caused by powder explosion, causing him blindness. Nor does it give any clue to any of his nine children, including three and later a fourth, who would make their home in Australia. The IR26 record, which I thought to get at least ten years later, is like a capricious Capuchin monkey in comparison. Harvey's legal heir is named as Martin Harvey of Woolwanga, Fountain Head, Port Darwin. At this time, land at Trevorgan, St Buryan, not mentioned in the will! is sold and his sister Mrs W Halpin, wrongly recorded as Wm, appears to have acted as attorney, i.e. next of kin. The first step in finding these records, which run from 1796-1903, is to search the Death Duty index at findmypast. You will need to know the year of death.
three countries and a Surrey phone book
Although this database proved very easy to search, it was not my first choice. Perhaps this and certain other good datasets, such as NSW deaths, should be a first port of call for missing 20th century relatives. However, I prefer to follow the line of enquiry as it comes. The first mention of Reg was in the Ancestry Immigration records showing him visiting the UK from India with his father, a goldminer. Second I found Reg's death in Surrey many years later. Third I checked for a will and drew a blank. Fourth I checked the BT phone books for 1984 and found an address which seemed to fit. Fifth I checked the current and also historical electoral rolls (the latter at the British Library), which gave me his widow and daughter's names. All three initials match the passenger list record below. No wonder I couldn't find them in England!
gotcha- marriage of Eleanor from Windermere
I shouldn't have panicked 'losing' Eleanor Lewis. Although her name is relatively common, I had her birthplace of Windermere up my sleeve. But you can't rely on that, as what if she'd died soon after marriage, or a variant of the birthplace been given in a census? I already had spotted her sister Isabella in the 1911 Blackburn census, and found a marriage there, so I knew straight away the circled entry was for my relative. Her daughter died nearly a hundred years later nearby, unmarried.
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